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		<title>The &#8220;Correction&#8221; Has Arrived</title>
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<p>Mr. Rosenberg has been pointing his finger at all of the negatives for quite some time, and just before the latest drop in the market, he expressed his concerns succinctly:</p>
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<p>[<a href="http://www.thegartmanletter.com/" target="_blank">The Gartman Letter</a>, July 6, 2009]</p>
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<p>When you add to Bernanke to Summers and Geithner, you have a trio seemingly hell-bent on transferring whatever the required amount of wealth from savers and taxpayers to the financial institutions to reinflate them to the bloated size they were before the meltdown. The biggest banks are being made whole while the rest of us are living with our wealth reduced by one-third to one-half, or more for many unlucky enough to buy and mortgage houses at the top of the bubble.</p>
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<p align="left">I have more reasons for being discouraged, but I’ll save those for another day. </p>
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		<title>Marc Faber Ahead of the Curve</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the weekend, I read a commentary of Marc Faber made on June 9, the previous Monday. levitra website purchase Buy cheap Female Viagra Online viagra online As the market has dropped precipitously this morning, it seems that once again Mr. Faber has given advice that would have been well to see and heed. Though [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><h3>See high risk in entering equities now: Marc Faber</h3>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who are impressed by Marc Faber&#8217;s record of being right much more often than wrong, his current outlook will be eagerly received. diet orlistat pill prescription As usual, his views run contrary to the conventional buy viagra pill wisdom, and in some instances even contrary to some of his own recent views &#8212; [...]]]></description>
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<p>Dr. Marc Faber Market Commentary February 1, 2009      <br /><a href="http://www.gloomboomdoom.com">www.gloomboomdoom.com</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of learned commentators are now explaining to us what has happened to the global financial markets. These commentators are making various predictions about what the future holds &#8212; and many who were dead wrong before the fact are cautiously to strongly  optimistic. <!-- ~~sponsor~~ -->
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<p>I highly recommend reading <a href="http://www.investmentpostcards.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/montier.pdf">the entire interview</a>, which is eight pages long, in Adobe Acrobat format. It is easier to read than the selected excerpts below. If you are busy and want to get a sense of the understanding of Edwards and Montier, read the excerpts below. I expect you will then want to read the entire interview.</p>
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<p><strong><font size="4">Inflation Not The Problem</font></strong>    <br /><font size="3"><strong><em>But Market Fundamentals &#8220;Appalling,&#8221; Edwards &amp; Montier Say</em></strong></font></p>
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<p><strong>It&#8217;s silly season. I saw a headline this morning      <br />saying that the IEA is about to slash its       <br />forecasts of peak production capacities &#8212;       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>Albert</strong>: Sure, that&#8217;s a methodology change,     <br />just like Moody&#8217;s has to keep doing. On the way     <br />up, methodologies are changed to justify higher     <br />prices. When we&#8217;re back at $60, <strong>and given a      <br />global recession, we will be back at $50 or $60       <br />in a year&#8217;s time,</strong> they&#8217;ll be changing the     <br />methodology back again. [Emphasis added.]     </p>
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<p><strong>Albert</strong>: One other thing that I like to point out     <br />is the liquidity effect on commodities and     <br />emerging markets. We&#8217;ve had one liquidity     <br />bubble go pop with the credit crunch. But     <br />there&#8217;s another one still to unravel, which is     <br />the change in the U.S. current deficit. While it     <br />was blowing out, it acted as a huge liquidity     <br />pump for the rest of the world because the     <br />emerging economies intervened to hold their     <br />currencies down. So a chart of EM reserves     <br />goes up vertically and hasn&#8217;t come down yet.     <br />But what I am highlighting is, hey, if the U.S.     <br />economy is going into a recession now, which it     <br />probably is, then we&#8217;re moving to a different     <br />phase. Housing was the least import-sensitive     <br />component of U.S. domestic demand. So the     <br />housing crash hasn&#8217;t really impacted the trade     <br />deficit all that much in the U.S. But now the     <br />credit crisis&#8217; impact is moving into consumption,     <br />which is the most import-sensitive component.     <br />So it&#8217;s likely that you&#8217;re going to get a     <br />rapid decline in the U.S. current account     <br />deficit over the next 6 to 12 months, which     <br />means the emerging economies&#8217; surpluses     <br />come down very sharply, so they don&#8217;t have to     <br />intervene so much in their currencies &#8212; which     <br />means the growth in their money supplies collapses,     <br />which means the growth of liquidity in     <br />their economies collapses. Any analysis of what     <br />drives emerging market growth rates and     <br />emerging market equities and bond performance,     <br />shows that the printing of money by     <br />these emerging economies&#8217; central banks has     <br />been a huge factor in bolstering their     <br />economies. But that is going into reverse in the     <br />next 6 to 12 months, in a major way. The     <br />reserves will still grow, but at a much, much     <br />slower rate. That will produces a big sucking     <br />noise in terms of the impetus for emerging market     <br />growth, and actually put downward pressure     <br />on commodities. If you blow up the emerging     <br />market growth story, then you kick away the     <br />crutch for the secular bull market in <a href="http://viagra-online-price.net">buy viagra online</a>  commodities     <br /><em>for a while</em>. [Italics in original]</p>
<p><strong>Not to mention, demolish decoupling.      <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>James:</strong> I actually have come up with a wee bit     <br />of data that shows, even if you somehow still     <br />believe in decoupling, that the emerging markets     <br />still have a huge problem: There&#8217;s an     <br />inverse relationship, historically, between economic     <br />growth and stock returns in emerging <a href="http://spropecia-online.net">buy proscar</a>      <br />markets. The slowest-growing emerging markets     <br />have generally generated the best stock     <br />market returns for investors, while returns     <br />from the fastest-growth emerging markets have     <br />lagged, because people overpaid for growth. Yet     <br />the whole reason, today, for buying into the     <br />emerging markets and commodities seems to     <br />hinge on rapid growth in China, India, Brazil and     <br />Russia &#8212; which I think is utter madness.     </p>
<p><strong>There seems to be a lot of that going      <br />around&#8212;       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>Albert</strong>: Yes. Another thing we&#8217;ve flagged on     <br />this, which we find amusing &#8212; because so many     <br />pin their bull stories for commodities on     <br />demand from China and India and so on growing     <br />so fast, even if the U.S. and U.K. fall into     <br />recessions &#8211; is that the IMF came along several     <br />months ago and dramatically reduced its estimates     <br />of the emerging markets&#8217; purchasing     <br />power parity. They actually cut their estimates     <br />of the relative size of the Indian and Chinese     <br />economies by 40%. They shrunk them,     <br />overnight, by 40%. James has a name for it, the     <br />way you reject information which doesn&#8217;t agree     <br />with your view.     </p>
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<p><strong>In other words, each dollar of new debt      <br />was less efficient than the last in generating       <br />growth&#8212;       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>Albert:</strong> <a href="http://buydiflucancheap.com">buy <a href="http://aviagraforsale.com/item.php?name=Cialis">Cialis</a>  diflucan</a>  Exactly. <strong>As I always say, if a loose monetary      <br />policy and rapid asset price inflation were       <br />the route to economic prosperity, Argentina       <br />would be the richest country in the world by       <br />now. This is a Ponzi scheme, and the U.K. has       <br />been doing the same as the U.S. It&#8217;s a bit like       <br />2001, when the corporate sector also borrowed       <br />very heavily on a new paradigm view of the       <br />world. They piled up debt because they thought       <br />profits were going to explode. Then they sat       <br />bolt upright in 2001, realized they&#8217;d borrowed       <br />way too much and had to cut back on their borrowing.       <br />The U.S. economy just dropped out of       <br />the sky as they cut back on their investment &#8212;       <br />which they had to do, to stop borrowing. Now,       <br />the same thing is happening with the U.S. and       <br />the U.K. consumer: The asset price bubble has       <br />burst, and now there&#8217;s nothing there holding up       <br />these extremes of expenditure. Which is why I       <br />expect a deep recession. It surprises me, when       <br />we go around visiting clients, that not more       <br />people are thinking a deep recession is possible.       <br /></strong>[Emphasis Added.]     </p>
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<p><strong>And most consumers sailed through those      <br />downturns unscathed.       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>Albert:</strong> Kind to consumers, unkind to corporates.     <br />The high-yield corporate default rate     <br />went to 12%. Now, Moody&#8217;s did a scenario     <br />analysis recently and they said in their most     <br />pessimistic scenario the default rate would go back     <br />up to where it was in the last two recessions. But     <br />those were mild recessions. And that may be     <br />what happens. But if you&#8217;re going to pencil in a     <br />pessimistic scenario, why don&#8217;t you pencil in a     <br />deep recession where default rates won&#8217;t <a href="http://buylevaquincheap.com">buy levaquin</a>  stop at     <br />where they went to in the last two recessions,     <br />around 12% for the speculative <a href="http://cialis-online-price.com">buy cialis pill</a>  grade, but go to     <br />20% or higher, which is what will happen if     <br />there&#8217;s a deep recession? So Moody&#8217;s hasn&#8217;t     <br />learned. You know, the lesson from the AAA     <br />ratings of CDOs was its mistake in not factoring     <br />in the possibility of a deep housing downturn.     <br />Yet they&#8217;re making the same sort of mistake     <br />again, by not factoring in the fact that there     <br />could be a deep recession. <a href="http://americanlandowners.com/images/">buy cialis fast shipping </a>  Well, why not? Why     <br />not simulate what would happen and warn people     <br />that the AAA stuff that is not CDO-related     <br />will come under incredible pressure if there&#8217;s a     <br />deep recession?     </p>
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<p><strong>Not to worry. The Fed fixes all.</strong>     <br /><strong>Albert:</strong> That&#8217;s just it! It&#8217;s beyond the potency of     <br />the Fed. They aren&#8217;t in control of it. Paul Volcker     <br />actually said recently that maybe the Fed lost     <br />control. There are so many people saying, quite <a href="http://spropecia-online.com">cheap propecia</a>      <br <a href="http://onlineacompliacheap.net">acomplia cheap</a>  />rightly, that this is the most serious downturn     <br />since the Great Depression. Yet almost every     <br />forecast calls for a mild downturn.</p>
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<p><strong>No argument. But oil back down at $60?      <br /></strong>    <br />Albert: Yes. Think what the oil price might be     <br />in a deep recession in which the emerging markets     <br />go down. Emerging markets earnings optimism     <br />is crumbling just as quickly as the developed     <br />markets. There&#8217;s no decoupling at all, so if     <br />you&#8217;ve got a sharp slowdown in growth in China     <br />and in emerging markets generally, I think perceptions     <br />will be totally transformed in six     <br />months&#8217; time. <a href="http://dcialisforsale.net/item.php?name=Kamagra Gold">Kamagra Gold</a>  But all you can do is sort of <a href="http://levitra-online-price.net">levitra costs</a>  warn     <br />of these things. And obviously people want to     <br />go with the flow. So stagflation is trendy again.     <br />I mean, if unit labor costs were picking up quite     <br />briskly the inflation bulls would have a very     <br />good case, but they are going in reverse.     </p>
<p><strong>Okay, but inflation expectations are soaring,      <br />and they&#8217;re supposed to lead&#8212;       <br /></strong>    <br />Inflation expectations can go up &#8212; and they are.     <br />But you go and ask for a pay raise and see what     <br />happens. Very little. I mean if these statistics     <br />are right, and I think they are because they survey     <br />the wage data, wage inflation is falling. Real     <br />incomes have just been absolutely clobbered.     <br />Which makes a consumption recession much     <br />more likely, which means that the emerging     <br />markets will see their current account surpluses     <br />shrink, which means the emerging markets are     <br />more likely to feel the double-whammy I mentioned     <br />earlier. And the inflows into their sovereign     <br />wealth funds will slow dramatically,     <br />because their foreign exchange reserves will     <br />stop growing. So we&#8217;re saying with a slowdown     <br />in the emerging economies, that money is far     <br />more likely to stay at home and be put to use on     <br />infrastructure projects than to come back here     <br />to bailout Western banks.     </p>
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<p><strong>How much improvement are you talking      <br />about in the U.S. current account deficit?       <br /></strong>    <br />Oh, it was 6% of GDP. It&#8217;s 4%-5% now, I&#8217;d say     <br />that if it drops to around 1%-2% in the next <a href="http://acomplia-online-price.net">acomplia buy online</a>  12     <br />months, it could have a big impact on the dollar.     <br />Japan has had that problem repeatedly, and     <br />often has had <a href="http://e-viagraonline.com/item.php?name=Cialis">Cialis</a>  to intervene very heavily to stop     <br />the yen from going up when the economy was in     <br />trouble. To the extent the dollar does rally, the     <br />less intervention the emerging economies will     <br />have to do to stop their currencies going up &#8212;     <br />and that will squeeze their reserves and money     <br />supplies even more. A bull in the china shop is     <br />unwelcome, as they say, and that would be a     <br />most unwelcome dollar rally from the point of     <br />view of the U.S., really turning off what has     <br />been a global liquidity pump. The lesson from     <br />Japan is these things can happen, especially if     <br />your economy is heading towards the rocks.     </p>
<p><strong>Surely you know the U.S. is just is not like      <br />Japan in very many ways.       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>James</strong>: Yes, but Peter Tasker, the Japan specialist     <br />we used to work with at DrKW, always used     <br />to say that the U.S. will eventually start to suffer     <br />something similar to Japan&#8217;s malaise, only     <br />worse because it&#8217;s a more flexible economy.     </p>
<p><strong>Did you say worse?      <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>James:</strong> Yes. At least in Japan companies didn&#8217;t     <br />cut jobs, because there was no social security     <br />net. Companies hoarded labor in the downturn, <a href="http://buyLasixcheap.com">lasix generic</a>      <br />which meant margins totally collapsed, and     <br />profits. But whole economy consumption never     <br />really collapsed because there weren&#8217;t big drops     <br />in employment. In contrast, he said, the U.S.     <br />economy&#8217;s greater flexibility will actually hurt</p>
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<p><strong>You two are conjuring up what have to be      <br />chilling prospects for central bankers &#8212; no       <br />wonder you call it the Ice Age.       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>Albert:</strong> What I&#8217;ve been saying all along is that     <br />in a low inflation world, equities should be     <br />cheaply priced relative to bonds. All we say to     <br />our clients is, if there is a recession, even a mild     <br />one, profits will fall 30%- 40% maybe. But people     <br />are counting on multiple expansion as bond     <br />yields come down to  offset the lower earnings. <!-- ~~sponsor~~ -->
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<p><strong>That&#8217;s what happened, I dimly recall, back      <br />in the mid-&#8217;70s and early &#8217;80s.       <br /></strong>   <a href="http://buynolvadexcheap.com ">online nolvadex</a>   <br /><strong>Albert:</strong> <a href="http://acialisforsale.com/item.php?name=Silagra">Silagra</a>  Yes. And if you <a href="http://levitra-online-price.com">buy generic levitra</a>  go back to the &#8217;50s and     <br />&#8217;60s, the whole market used to yield a lot more     <br />than bonds, not just a  few stocks. <!-- ~~sponsor~~ -->
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<p><strong>Wouldn&#8217;t it be behaviorally, well, natural      <br />for multiples to contract in a nasty downturn,       <br />as people turn cautious?       <a href="http://ampicillinpills.net">buy ampicilin</a>  <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>James:</strong> Absolutely classic. That&#8217;s what you saw <a href="http://aviagraforsale.net/item.php?name=Cialis Professional">Cialis Professional</a>      <br />in Japan as the Ice Age played out there:     <br />Multiple contraction with each subsequent     <br />downswing. I think that will be a feature of a     <br />post-bubble environment. Markets do become     <br />quite economically driven, if you like. The earnings     <br />cycle tends to matter much more. And     <br />we&#8217;ve barely begun an earnings downswing     <br />here. So I would fully envision a much sharper     <br />earnings decline that will make people that     <br />much more cautious. Now, after they lose faith     <br />repeatedly over the course of these ongoing     <br />cycles, eventually you do end up at the bubble     <br />process&#8217; end, which is revulsion. But it&#8217;s slow     <br />getting there. It doesn&#8217;t happen in the course of     <br />one market correction of 20% or 30%.     </p>
<p><strong>It almost sounds like you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s      <br />&#8220;fate.&#8221;       <br /></strong>    <br /><strong>James:</strong> No. As I wrote a few months ago, the     <br />events unfolding in the U.S. aren&#8217;t a black swan     <br />but an example of a predictable surprise. To claim     <br />otherwise is to abdicate all responsibility for     <br />what&#8217;s happening &#8212; and I believe bubbles are a byproduct     <br />of human behavior&#8212; which is (sadly) all     <br />too predictable. Of course, the details are different     <br />in every instance, but the general model was     <br />laid out long ago by Charles Kindleberger and Hyman     <br />Minsky: Bubble rise and fall in 5 stages &#8212; <a href="http://www.score-louisville.org/component/option,com_jcalpro/Itemid,28/extmode,view/extid,61/recurdate,1295935200/">prescription cialis</a>  displacement,     <br />or the birth of the boom, then credit creation, <a href="http://amoxil-cheap.com">buy amoxil</a>      <br />euphoria, then crisis/financial distress and     <br />finally revulsion. We&#8217;re not close to that last stage     <br />yet &#8212; and the path to it is never straight; always     <br />includes plenty of sucker rallies, as the quotations     <br />we talked about earlier so amply demonstrate.</p>
<p><font size="3">There&#8217;s more <a href="http://www.investmentpostcards.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/montier.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>. Every word is worth reading several times. </font></p>
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		<title>How Bad is the Chinese Economy?</title>
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